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and this is weapons

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what do you know about the phenomenon

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about UFOs what can you say for sure

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maybe it's nothing you know but what do

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we know about UFOs and where does this

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go as I said what we know is what we

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glean from all of the data that has been

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discussed and you know that the UFOs are

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real we well I mean tell me yes you UFOs

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are technologically sophisticated they

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have uh performance characteristics that

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are you know the the five observables

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are are sort of well documented but they

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also have a very profound uh effects on

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some people or they have superficial

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effects on other people but they do have

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have effects on people so going forward

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um is is to combine both of those is to

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study UFO performance and and you know

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the hope is that out of you for

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performance can come theoretical physics

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which will eventually translate into

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engineering does our government have

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downed UFOs from Unknown Origin that

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they've been trying and are trying to

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reverse engineer and exploit those

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Technologies understand the physics

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understand that technology do we have

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that to work with

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I can't talk about that but the answer

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is yes

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let me let me put let me ask it this way

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so there are a number of whistleblowers

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who are who have new protections they're

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lining up we've heard we know some of

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them and that we know generally what

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they're prepared to say let's say they

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tell this to Congress and Congress

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authorizes Arrow hey the stuff is over

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here go get it how does that change the

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world if we suddenly acknowledge or at

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least the government finds and locates

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and tests uh somewhat in the open these

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meta materials created by someone else

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they're not ours or entire craft that

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were built by someone else and we can't

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figure out how it how they fly how does

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that change the dynamic of this and does

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that does that answer actually answer

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the big questions who they who built

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them where they're from why they're here

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well it certainly answers

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um the sort of sneaking suspicion that

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people have had over many many many

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decades that the United States

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government is not coming out with the

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full truth of what has happened behind

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closed doors in terms of the the

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questions that you're asking about

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though

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technical performance and performance

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characteristics are fundamental if if

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the analysis the level of analysis that

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has happened on these objects is

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sufficient to generate you know as I

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said physics and Engineering

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um that is a major breakthrough and that

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would be a fundamental departure point

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for Humanity because Humanity would be

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able to answer that question are we

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alone or not alone in the universe we

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wouldn't be able to answer from that

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just from the raw materials or The Meta

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materials where they're from or what

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their interest is the bigger question is

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why are they here where are they from

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what's their interest in us right but at

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least that if you had that confirmed yes

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there is somebody else here here it is

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here's the stuff then you could go on

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and answer at least address the other

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questions well I and not only that but

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um you know the Galileo project has got

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a lot of of different scientific talent

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and expertise associated with so you

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could start really sort of co-opting

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scientific organizations that's already

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happening actually but I think you could

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really accelerate that once the

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certainty uh was there that there was

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technology of Unknown Origin in

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existence that it had been

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um you know it had been

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really discovered and that it was

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unequivocal if that was that message was

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put out to humanity it would be a game

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changer is that true and the message

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hasn't been put out

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but is that true what you said that

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there that there's a technology of

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unknown well I I like I said I can't

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talk about it but the answer is is yes

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why why would a buddy of mine a really

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funny buddy of mine you know I was

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arguing with them like I don't get it I

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said I don't get it why so much contact

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so many UFOs for so long is there a

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program what are they doing you know the

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Tic Tac UFO wasn't performing for favor

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until it noticed him it was doing a job

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so the question I have is why

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so much activity what are what is what

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is the UFO presence what are they doing

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here brings us back to where we started

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that word Consciousness I think it

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column has some theories about that

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right it brings it full circle to where

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yeah I mean

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metaphor if the tree in the Forest Falls

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and nobody is there to

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hear it um is the tree really falling in

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the forest so the idea that UFOs are

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interacting with planet Earth

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um the sort of most likely scenario is

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that the reason for that is that humans

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are on the planet I mean there it's

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unlikely that they're focusing only on

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um marsupials or trees or trees so you

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don't think they they'd be here if it

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wasn't for the human presence here that

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somehow that Humanity itself is the

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focus of the interaction between these

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unknowns that we call UFOs as other

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intelligence that are operating these

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um it could be that they're

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um you know that they're not just

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focusing on on Humanity but the

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astounding number of uh sightings that

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hundreds of thousands if not more

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globally that are that are personalized

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interactions between individuals or

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groups small groups and UFOs that have

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life-changing uh effects in some cases

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and you know mentality changing in many

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cases leads me to think that that one of

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the agendas of the UFO phenomenon is to

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interact with with humans but not

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interact with the white house but

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interact with individuals and

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um there's a there's a maybe a process

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where individuals are you know affected

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in a positive way ultimately that

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they're changing us one person at a time

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it I mean that's a possibility

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that the uh these hundreds of thousands

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or millions of sightings that have

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happened in the last just for the sake

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of arguments 77 years since 1945

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um would be sort of completely random

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um events that are sort of passing

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through and just you know being in the

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right place at the right time I think

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there's more to it than that because

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other I mean the vast number of

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sightings to me

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somehow important and somehow

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produces something that is you know that

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is viable something that they need

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something that interests them certainly

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but something they need from us or is it

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symbiotic I I I feel that you know

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um one of the agendas is human

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consciousness

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um that that an interaction with UFOs

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consciousness and and sort of we are

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back to the sort of original discussion

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point but you know one of the incidents

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that happened on the Skinwalker Ranch is

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kind of is emblematic of of this whole

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thing and that is that we had six people

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on the ranch

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um suddenly all six of them had

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um night vision binoculars and this

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light

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marker Ridge popped up it was sort of

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all just over the ridge

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and so it just happened that all six

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people had night vision binoculars they

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exactly the same make and model

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all six of them looked at this object

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binoculars they it was like greatly

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magnified the light was magnified

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tremendously through this you know low

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vision amplification and so there was a

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sort of a debriefing that occurred later

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that evening after that that evening had

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passed and it turned out that all six

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individuals saw completely different

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things through the night vision

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binocular binoculars so I mean I'm using

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that as a metaphor for saying that

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perception human perception

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is altered in many cases as a result or

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during UFO interactions so maybe human

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perception as it pertains to human

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consciousness is

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um is one of the objectives uh where the

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UFO phenomenon is somehow interacting

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with human consciousness for a purpose I

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don't know what that purpose is